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If you are thinking about raising meat goats or if you are already raising meat goats and having problems, then this article may be for you. I am going to tell you what is involved in raising meat goats and what you need to have or acquire for this purpose. This is the information I give to people who call or email about raising meat goats.

Basic Truth: It isn't what you don't know that will get you; it is what you don't know that you need to know that will bite you in the butt every time.

You aren't going to make any money for several years because of start-up costs like buying land and animals (goats and livestock guardian dogs) plus installing pens, fencing, waterers, and other infrastructure. This is true in any business. If you don't have enough money to survive for as long as three years without taking money out of the business, you aren't likely to be successful. What you least expect will derail your plans -- droughts, abortion storms, predator strikes, floods, cold and heat stress killing kids as well as adults -- just to name a few. If it is easy or cheap, it doesn't work with goats. None of the financial projections of what you can earn raising meat goats takes these unexpected events into account while painting a rosy story of how easy it is to raise goats and how much money you can make. Both statements are outright lies; raising goats is never easy and ranching/farming is hard work that most of today's Americans aren't accustomed to or prepared to do. There are no holidays, vacations, or sick days. Animals eat daily, get sick at the most inconvenient times, and weather is a constant enemy. You have to live where the goats and dogs live and check on them daily; you can't raise them on an absentee basis. This is a lifestyle of days gone by, and you'd better be sure that it is what you want to do, because you can't escape from it once you start.

Goats are a dry-climate species. They can handle hot and cold but they don't do well in wet or wet and windy climates. Goats are not "little cows" and they should not be mentioned in the same sentence as sheep. Cattle and sheep are grass eaters. Goats are foragers/browsers -- not grazers; they move over acreage and eat like deer, "from the top down" to avoid stomach worms that suck blood that cause anemia and death. You can't deworm your way out of stomach worms either; frequent deworming simply builds super worms that are resistant to all classes of dewormers. Wet marshy climates are death to goats. I know that many people are trying to raise goats in such areas, but they are struggling with worms, hoof rot, coccidiosis, and a host of other problems that they can never totally overcome and their goats will never perform to their optimum because these conditions hold them back. I live in dry west Texas, which is goat country. Every year at GoatCamp™, Dr. Jim Miller, parasitologist at Louisiana University, has to bring goat pills containing worm eggs to use in doing fecals under microscopes because we simply can't find worms in the fecal pellets of my goats.

If you are going to raise goats for meat purposes and make money doing it, you must have sufficient land for goats from which they can feed themselves most of the year, supplementing only in times of bad weather. Bad weather is defined as all sorts of environmental stressors like extreme cold and heat, droughts, floods, high winds especially when coupled with rain, etc. You can't make any serious amount of money raising goats on less than 100 acres -- and even 100 acres won't allow much production. Meat goats can't tolerate crowding and the stress it brings; goats can't be feedlotted like cattle or sheep without significant mortality (death). Understand that I am not writing about highly-domesticated and heavily-managed dairy goats; they are totally different animals.

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A-D-A-P-T-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y. Hardly anyone considers adaptability when they buy goats for breeding purposes. Goats need time to adapt to new environments. Dams need time to develop immunities to the bacteria, viruses, and other organisms that live on the land to which they have been brought and which are different from those to which they have been previously exposed before breeding them. Never buy pregnant does. Goats don't move well and often abort or reabsorb embryos. Does bred at their previous home will not be able to provide immunity to the "bugs" on your property to their newborn kids through their milk when they kid at your location. Kids are born without a functioning immune system and get all of their immunities through their dams' colostrum and milk. Adaptability is just as important to breeding bucks. Never buy breeding stock at commercial auctions; they are no surplus quality goats to be found this way. In fact, the number of goats in the USA is decreasing. At commercial auctions, you are buying other producers' problem goats that they have sold at auction in hopes of getting better than slaughter prices.

Goats are not the tin-can eaters of Saturday morning cartoon fame. They need top-quality hay and plant materials -- horse quality nutrition, to be precise. It is very easy to upset the rumen and kill the goat. Think "feeding the rumen, not feeding the goat." Goats can survive on plant materials that other ruminants can't, but they won't do well or thrive. Commercial producers need their goats to thrive in order to make money.

"Number of goats per acre" is not relevant to raising meat goats. There is no formula of "x" many goats per acre that works with raising goats. The plant materials available to eat do not determine animal load. The defining factor for raising meat goats is how well you can control the worm load. That means starting very small, culling heavily in every generation those goats who display bad traits (susceptability to worms, bad mothering abilities, deliver kids that are too large resulting in kidding problems, poor feet and mouth, etc.) and selecting those goats to keep that have good traits (ability to carry a reasonable worm load, good mothering traits, small kids that birth easily and grow well, good feet and mouth, etc.). If the goats that need culling are your children's favorites, this is going to be difficult to do but must be done because their weaknesses are threats to the overall health and safety of the herd. The goal is to develop an entire herd that tolerates a reasonable wormload and has other positive traits that contribute to minimal producer maintenance and maximum productivity.

Raising goats involves a great deal of common sense and a surprising number of people don't have it, particularly relating to livestock and agriculture in a time where most folks are city dwellers. I know this first hand; the first 42 years of my life were spent in a big city where as an adult I worked in an office and never owned a pet. If you don't have a gut instinct for what it takes to raise goats, you won't be successful. Pay attention to your animals. Notice how they move, eat, rest, get from location to location, and watch what they eat and avoid eating. Learn to think like a goat. When I first moved to my current location in West Texas, I would take one of my herds of goats to a north pasture each morning and bring them back to shelter at the south end of the ranch at night. One day I went to collect the herd from a pasture where the gate had been put at the north end. The goats were waiting at the south end of the pasture. For three afternoons, I herded goats north to the gate that accessed the center alley so that they could then go south. They looked at me like I was crazy. They knew that home was south. On the third day, I cut the fence wires and told the fence builders to have a gate on the south end of that pasture by the next afternoon. The goats were smarter than me about how to get home. Learn to think like a goat.

Don't blindly do what your friends and neighbors are doing; they are likely as confused or ill-informed as you may be about raising goats. Ask questions when someone tells you something that they insist is factual. They may be parroting what they've heard and perpetuating bad information. Listening to many voices will only confuse you. Don't take advice from people raising show goats unless you plan to raise show goats because almost everything they do is contrary to what you need to be doing with your meat goats. Choose your mentors carefully. Find a good goat vet or one who is willing to learn along with you; vets knowledgeable about goats are few and far between, even in West Texas goat country.

Goats are not easy to raise properly. Proper nutrition is the most difficult thing to get right in any managed herd -- no matter how minimal that management might be. Goats are high-mortality animals. Any species that has early sexual maturity, short gestation, and multiple births is going to experience a high level of mortality or it is going to overwhelm the balance of Nature and over-consume its food supply. If you work diligently, you are going to have a 5% mortality rate when kidding. If you do nothing, you will have anywhere from 12% to 100% kid mortality rate, the latter representing an abortion *storm* over which you have limited control. There will be times when you need to put a goat down because you can't save it. This is part of raising livestock. If you can't do dead goats, you can't do live goats. I've learned from these animals that there are far worse things in this life than dying. Goats aren't afraid of dying; this is part of life to them. They are afraid of being afraid; death is preferable to living in fear. If a goat knows it is its time to die, it will quit eating to hasten death. A weak or dying animal is a threat to the rest of the herd, and goats are very much herd animals. They have few natural defenses from predators, so the herd means safety.

When raising goats, you must have needed supplies and medications on hand because you will have no time to get them in an emergency, which almost by definition occurs at night during bad weather over a long holiday weekend. Goats are considered a minor species animal and almost everything we use as medications and dewormers is "off label," which means that you have a vast amount of learning ahead of you if you are going to raise healthy animals.

The problem isn't the breed; the problem is management. People tend to want to find a quick fix for their problems. Example: "If Boers can't tolerate our worm loads, let's try Kikos because they come from wet New Zealand so they will do well in our wet area." Nonsense. There is that thing called adaptability that dictates that goats must have time to adapt to their new environment and develop immunities to the organisms present at the new locale. Just because a goat survived well in wet New Zealand while roaming over thousands of acres in a largely unmanaged situation where "survival of the fittest" took out the weak and the strong survived does not mean that it will do well in wet Alabama on 50 acres when raised in pens or small pastures and fed rations by the new owners who don't cull because the goats cost a lot of money and therefore are all thought of as quality breeding stock. Adaptability has to start all over at the new location. There is no "quick fix" to problems encountered when raising goats.

Another attempt at a "quick fix" is to buy goats that are registered, assuming that registration means a quality animal. Nothing could be further from the truth. Registration provides only pedigree information. Genetics is a crap shoot. The best buck and best doe can produce terrific offspring one year and total junk the next year. You have to learn how to select quality breeding stock meat goats. Registration has nothing to do with quality.

With proper management, land, facilities, and nutrition, you can raise any breed of goat to healthy adulthood. However, this doesn't mean that the breeds or cross-breeds that you've selected to raise will necessarily meet the needs of the market in your area. That's an entirely different consideration. Market research is critical to your success. You will find that many producers are raising animals to weights that are far in excess of liveweights that bring maximum money per pound. Historically, maximum money has always been made for goats in the 45 to 60 pound range liveweight.


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